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Title: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC universes
Contribution by: wbohm at the May 09, 2015, 12:47:53
In the film thread for the 2016 film "Deadpool" I already noted that I always confuse Deadpool (Marvel) with Deathstroke (DC), for example, because of the similar sounding names (Slade Wilson, Wade Wilson) and other similarities Idea to open this thread here, where we can chat about similar characters in both comic universes (if desired). Of course, many other characteristics do not match, but if there is only one thing in common, then that is enough and should be mentioned here (preferably with a picture of the cartoon character, if possible)

Both universes have their "savior organization", at DC it is the Justice League (formerly Justice Society) (in German called "Justice League") at Marvel it is the "Avengers" (with many "sub-organizations such as West Coast Avengers etc.) .

The places where the heroes act are similar, mostly big cities. While Marvel mostly leaves the city names like New York (where e.g. the Fantastic Four and some others like Spiderman act) the cities in the DC Universe are "alienated" Gotham (New York) or Metropolis, Central City, Star (ling) City etc.

So, let's go. What similarities have you noticed in characters from both universes? I'll start with Deadpool-Deathstroke, Quicksilver-The Flash, Green Arrow - Hawkeye in the next post.

No long novels should be written about the characters (except for this introductory post, just name both characters, add a picture and what they have in common, that's enough)



Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: wbohm at the May 09, 2015, 12:53:45
Deadpool (Marvel) - Deathstroke (DC)

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Similarities:

Name (Wilson (Slade or Wade)
Profession: Mercenary, participation in a (secret) military project that gave them special skills

Both characters entered their respective universes almost at the same time, in the early 90s.

Deathstroke had an appearance in the DC series "Arrow", where he was played by Manu Bennett
Deadpool gets its own Marvel feature film in 2016. Before that he appeared in the Marvel movie "X-Men Origins: Wolverine", where he had very little to do with the cartoon character. He is played by Ryan Reynolds


edit: Oops, the pictures got big: nothing white:







Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: wbohm at the May 09, 2015, 12:59:13
Green Arrow (DC) - Hawkeye (Marvel)

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Similarities: archers, members of the respective "rescue organizations". Green Arrow is a member of the Justice League, Hawkeye is a member of the Avengers (or sub-organization).


The (Green) Arrow, Oliver Queen, appeared both in Smallville (played by Justin Hartley) and currently in the stand-alone series "Arrow" played by Stephen Amell.

Hawkeye appears in the Avengers films 1/2, played by Jeremy Renner.


Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: wbohm at the May 09, 2015, 13:04:02
The Flash (DC) - Quicksilver (Marvel)

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Similarities: (each) "Fastest Man alive": D

Differences: Quicksilver (together with his twin sister "Scarlet Witch" is a mutant, so has the ability from birth. Flash got his ability through "an accident".

The Flash is a member of the Justice League (previously also the Justice Society). Quicksilver, however, was initially a member of the "Evil Mutants" who fought the X-Men. Only later did he join the Avengers, along with his twin sister. He is the son of Magneto.


Flash, Barry Allen had his own series "Flash - The Red Lightning" back in 1990. There he was played by John Wesley Shipp. Since 2014 Grant Gustin has played Barry Allen in the series "The Flash"

Quicksilver last appeared with twin sister Scarlet Witch in Avengers 2: Age of Ultron, played by Aaron Taylor Johnson. Before that, he was in X-Men: Days of Future Past, played by Evan Peters


Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: Ducky at the May 09, 2015, 3:42:18 pm
Doctor Fate (DC) - Doctor Strange (Marvel)

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Similarities: Master of the nystic powers / magician

The character of Doctor Fate has so far appeared in various television series based on characters from the DC universe. This is how the character became in various episodes of the animated series Superman. The Animated Series (episode "The Hand of Fate", originally dubbed by George Del Hoyo), Justice League Unlimited and in the cartoon Justice League. The New Frontier used. Furthermore, Fate was in episodes of the animated series Batman. The Brave and the Bold (episode "The Eye of Despero!" And "The Fate of Equinox"; originally dubbed by Greg Ellis) and Young Justice (episode "Denial"; dubbed by Edward Asner) incorporated.
Fate was first portrayed by a real-life actor in the series Smallville, in which Brent Stait appeared in the double episode Absolute Justice in 2010.

Doctor Strange has also appeared on a number of animated series. In 1978 he was played by Peter Hooten in the film "Doctor Strange". Another cinematic adaptation has been announced for 2016, this time with Benedict Cumbernatch in the title role


Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: wbohm at the May 10, 2015, 12:43:48
@Ducky: Thanks for your participation: happy: I would love to see the "Doctor Strange" film from 1978. I really like the character of Doc Strange and I'm really looking forward to the Marvel movie

So, on it goes, this time with 2 "underwater heroes" from Atlantis:


Aquaman (DC) - Namor, the Submariner (Marvel)

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Both "rulers of Atlantis" can both breathe underwater, etc. Aquaman was a founding member of the Justice League. Namor is sometimes a hero, sometimes a super villain (although never really bad, but with him it was usually the case that he couldn't get over the fact that his empire Atlantis "went under" (in the truest sense of the word)). Later he was also a member of several "organizations" including the Avengers


Aquaman appeared in various cartoons (including Justice League). He had a brief appearance in real film adaptations in Smallville. After that they probably even shot a pilot for an Aquaman series, but the CW never broadcast it and only offered it for download. Unfortunately, the series was never realized.
In 2017 there is a Justice League feature film from DC, he will (probably) be there and for 2018 there is finally an Aquaman feature film. In both cases Jason Momoa is supposed to take on the role of Aquaman.

With Namor, the Submariner, things don't look so good in terms of real-life films. He was featured in cartoons, but a series about him was planned as early as the 1950s and was dropped. The series "The Man from Atlantis" with Patrick Duffy is loosely based on Namor, but nothing more. A film was also planned for the 90s, as well as a few years later. But unfortunately that never became concrete. It's a shame that Marvel forgets one of its "founding heroes" from the late 30s and early 40s. Back then, he was the figurehead alongside Captain America and Human Torch. Later in the 50s when the superheroes were forgotten, he was forgotten too. It was not until the legendary Stan Lee that he was resurrected in the course of the superhero boom in the early 1960s. Initially mainly as a "villain" (as I said, he was never really bad) with the Fantastic Four or the X-Men. In the 70s he got his own magazine, first as a Submariner, later as Namor

I kind of like the Submariner. His little wings on his feet are cute;)

Edit: Shit, I still write "no novels" above in the introductory text, but now I've run away again. Sorry, but maybe one or the other will be interested.


Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: SilverLion at the May 10, 2015, 1:26:43 pm
I have the pilot for the previously planned "Aquaman" series. Didn't think it was bad at all and found it sad that the series didn't get the green light after all.


Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: Ducky at the May 12, 2015, 3:34:15 pm
Superman (DC) - Hyperion (Marvel)

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Both have superhuman strength, are super fast, and can fly. see the entire electromagnetic spectrum, Superman has his heat vision, Hyperion accordingly has an atomic vision, ...

Superman was often a member of the Justice League. Hyperion has a good version (member of the Squadron Supreme) and an evil one (member of the Squadron Sinister).

While the list of Superman films is quite extensive:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_in_anderen_Medien (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_in_anderen_Medien)
only brings Hyperion to guest appearances in the series "The Super Hero Squad Show" and "Avengers Assemble"


Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: wbohm at the May 12, 2015, 4:51:42 pm
Atom (DC) - Ant-Man (Marvel)

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Atom (Prof Raymond "Ray" Palmer) - Ant-Man (Dr. Henry "Hank" Pym)

What they have in common: Both brilliant scientists who can "downsize". Hank Pym can later "inflate himself a lot" and then even goes from Ant-Man to GiAnt-Man (there will be other aliases later, e.g. Goliath or Yellowjacket). Ant-Man is a founding member of the Avengers together with his assistant and later wife Janet van Dyne alias "Wasp".

Ray Palmer aka Atom is currently starring in Season 3 of Arrow, played by Brandon Routh. Hank Pym will appear in the Marvel movie "Ant-Man" on July 17th, 2015. There he is played by Michael Douglas. However, he no longer plays the Ant-Man there, but the mentor of one of the Ant-Man's alter egos, the thief Scott Lang (played by Paul Rudd).


Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: McCormick at the May 12, 2015, 8:37:11 PM
Catwoman (DC) - Black Cat (Marvel)
There are several Catwoman in the comics once Selina Kyle then Holly Robinson (because Selina became a mother, Holly Selina's best friend became the new Catwoman) and a Catwoman from the future (maybe this is Selina's daughter).
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Catwoman (Selina Kyle) - Black Cat (Felicia Hardy)

Similarity: Both are thieves, both love cats, Both Catwoman and Black Cat were once on the bad side, according to the marvel wikia Black Cat should now be bad again.

Catwoman's appearances in film and TV are too big to list so here is a link:
http://de.batman.wikia.com/wiki/Selina_Kyle_%28%C3%9Cbersicht%29#In_anderen_Medien (http://de.batman.wikia.com/wiki/Selina_Kyle_%28%C3%9Cbersicht%29# In_other_media)

Black Cat appeared in Spider-Man (1981) in the episode Curiosity Killed the Spider-Man, Spider-Man: The Animated Series and The Spectacular Spider-Man.
Black Cat was intended as Felica Hardy in Spider Man 2 in previous scripts. If Sam Rami was filming Spider Man 4, Anne Hathaway would play Black Cat. In the future Amazing Spider-Man films, Felicia Hardy will play Black Cat. It is not yet known which actress Black Cat will then play.


Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: wbohm at the May 13, 2015, 1:50:42 pm
There are several Catwoman in the comics once Selina Kyle then Holly Robinson (because Selina became a mother, Holly Selina's best friend became the new Catwoman) and a Catwoman from the future (maybe this is Selina's daughter).

You don't necessarily have to put that in spoilers. Many characters have "multiple alter egos". By the way, the daughter of Selina Kyle (and Batman) is Helena also known as Huntress.

If Sam Rami was filming Spider Man 4, Anne Hathaway would play Black Cat.

How so? : nothing white: Sam Raimi as Marvel director, that would be something new. But I'd rather not see Anne Hathaway as Black Cat. As a Catwoman, she was okay

In the future Amazing Spider-Man films, Felicia Hardy will play Black Cat.

Why "should"? Felicia Hardy is a Black Cat. Sounds like e.g. "In the next Batman / Superman movie Bruce Wayne plays Batman or Clark Kent plays Superman";)



Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: McCormick at the May 13, 2015, 2:06:49 pm
@wbhom
I can tell you why Anne Hathaway should play Black Cat in Spider Man 4. Here is the quote from the English-language wiki by Black Cat (Comics)
Felicia Hardy was originally supposed to appear in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 4 and be played by Anne Hathaway, though she would not have transformed into the Black Cat, as in the comics. Instead, Raimi's Felicia was expected to become a new super-powered figure called the Vulturess. [78] However, in 2013 Raimi stated that Anne Hathaway would have played Black Cat if Spider-Man 4 had been made.[79]

True, it shouldn't be, but Felicia Hardy will be Black Cat in upcoming Spider Man films. Always annoying these mistakes, man: crap:


Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: wbohm at the May 13, 2015, 7:40:54 pm
True, it shouldn't be, but Felicia Hardy will be Black Cat in upcoming Spider Man films. Always annoying these mistakes, man: crap:

Is there an actress named Felicia Hardy who is supposed to play Black Cat? ;) (As I said, Felicia Hardy is Black Cat just like Bruce Wayne is Batman)

so, on it goes, this time "nice and elastic": D


Mr.Fantastic (Marvel) - Plastic Man (DC)
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Reed Richards, the ingenious scientist of the Fantastic Four, and Eel (Eel: D) O'Brian, a former crook and now a private detective, both got the ability to stretch their bodies like a rubber band through "accidents" and can also deform their bodies.

Reed Richards appeared with his Fantastic Four several times in the cinema or on TV, most recently in 2005 and 2007 he was played by Joan Gruffudd. In 2015 there will be another "Fantastic Four" film adaptation, this time Miles Teller will portray Mister Fantastic.

I don't know spontaneously whether there will be a real film adaptation of Plasticman, but I don't think so. Incidentally, "Plasticman" first appeared on QC (Quality Comics) in the 1940s. It wasn't until the end of the 50s that DC secured the rights, and from 1966 there was a series of comics by Plastic Man.


Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: McCormick at the May 13, 2015, 7:58:27 pm
@wbohm
Ok, let's leave it at that. There are also many versions of Black Cat that are interesting, including a manga version: totally laughed:
http://marvel.wikia.com/Felicia_Hardy_%28Earth-2301%29 (http://marvel.wikia.com/Felicia_Hardy_%28Earth-2301%29) Here she dived in Spider-Man: Legend of the Spider-Clan Vol 1 the first time. The comic was probably not published in German-speaking countries.


Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: wbohm at the May 14, 2015, 5:49:38 pm
Now it's getting hot: "Flame on": D


Human Torch - The Torch (Marvel) - Firestorm (DC)

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Here, too, there are "several versions" of both. Human Torch was one of the 3 first Marvel heroes (then still Timely Comics), but the better known is certainly Johnny Storm from the Fantastic Four. He appeared in various cartoon series and also on TV and was of course in the two Fantastic Four films from 2005 and 2007, where he was played by Chris Evans (later Captain America). Evans is the only one who has played 2 Marvel superheroes so far. Another Fantastic Four feature film should come out in 2015 (which has nothing to do with the other two), where Michael B. Jordan will play the torch.

Firestorm also made appearances in a few cartoon series. In real film adaptations he could be seen in the series "The Flash" in some episodes of the 1st season.


Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: Ducky at the May 15, 2015, 3:05:55 pm
I found the cat ladies hotter: D

Lex Luthor (DC) / Doctor Doom (Marvel)

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Both belong to the mad scientist category and are spooky villains. Both against their enemies (Sperman and Mr. Fantastic) blame them for their disfigurement (Lex has lost all hair, Doom was so exposed in an accident that he hides his face behind the mask of his armor)
At Lex Luthor, none of this applies until 1985, after which the Crisis on Infinite Earths his character completely redesigned, he is no longer a mad scientist, but a megalomaniac and power-obsessed businessman

Lex Luthor appears in the movies Superman I, Superman II - Alone Against All, Superman IV - The World on the Edge, as well as in Superman Returns. Gene Hackman gave him a humorous twist in the Superman films of the late 1970s and 1980s. In the television series Lois and Clark, John Shea portrayed him as a slippery businessman. In the series Smallville, John Glover plays Alexander's father Lionel Luthor, one of the authors' own creations, while Michael Rosenbaum portrays the young Luthor. Kevin Spacey played his role in Superman Returns from 2006. He also appears in vileen drawing adaptations

In the movie Fantastic Four, Doctor Doom is played by Julian McMahon, although the story of the film does not match that of the comics. In the film, the accident also gives him superpowers: his blood becomes a kind of living metal and he gains power over electricity.
In the sequel to the 2007 film called Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom on again, portrayed again by Julian McMahon.
Dr. Doom also appeared in the following cartoon series in which he played the villain: The Fantastic Four (1967-1970), The New Fantastic Four (1978-1979), Spider-Man (1981-1982), and Spider-Man his Extraordinary Friends (1981–1983), The Fantastic Four (1994–1996), New Spider-Man (1994–1998) and The Incredible Hulk (1996–1997). In Fantastic Four (2007) and Ultimate Spiderman (2012) he appears again and again as a skillful manipulator and opponent of the superheroes. He is also the main opponent in The Super Hero Squad Show.



Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: Ducky at the May 16, 2015, 14:36:36
Vigilante (DC) / Punisher (Marvel)

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Adrian Chase was a New York district attorney whose family was killed by members of organized crime. To avenge her, he took it into his own hands and became a vigilante. At first he was careful not to kill anyone, but over time he lost that consideration.
Frank Castle was a highly decorated member of the U.S. Marines. His children accidentally witnessed a Mafia murder at a picnic, and since they had no witnesses, the Mafia henchmen shot the entire family down. Only Castle survived and swore blood revenge on the criminals, benefiting from his knowledge of hand-to-hand combat, military tactics and heavy weapons. He is a criminal hunter who practices vigilante justice and does not shy away from violent practices such as killing, kidnapping, extortion, coercion and torture


In the first film adaptation of Punisher (The Punisher, 1989) he was played by Dolph Lundgren. Directed by Mark Goldblatt. The Punisher appears in this film without his identification mark, the skull on his chest. The film was shown in Germany in a version cut by approx. 5 minutes.
In 2004 a new film (The Punisher) was released, this time Thomas Jane played the Punisher. The film was only released after several cuts.
In 2008 there was a sequel under the title Punisher: War Zone. This time it was directed by Lexi Alexander, Ray Stevenson slipped into the role of the punisher. The film flopped in the US and was released directly on DVD and Blu-Ray Disc in Germany.
In 2012 Thomas Jane presented the self-produced 10-minute short film The Punisher - Dirty Laundry at San Diego Comic Con, in which he slips back into the role of the antihero after 8 years. Jane said he produced the film because he still has a great passion for the character of the Punisher. In addition to Thomas Jane, Ron Perlman can also be seen in a supporting role
Avengers Confidential: Black Widow & Punisher will be released on Blu-Ray & DVD in August 2014. In this animated film, the Punisher is taken into custody by Black Widow and Shield. He is forced to work with Black Widow to stop a terrorist organization.



Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: McCormick at the 23 August 2015, 3:53:12 pm
Bullseye (Marvel) / Deathshot (DC)
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Bullseye - Its real name is unknown even where it comes from. He once used the name Benjamin Poindexter but there were circumstances and so he called himself Lester.
Deadshot - (Floyd Lawton)

Similarity: Both are excellent snipers and (almost) always hit their target (Batman was the only man Deadshot missed, which made Deadshot's hatred of Batman even greater and he is now at the top of his hit list). Both work for money and are contract killers.

Bullseye only appears on TV in the animated series Avengers Assemble. In the 2003 comic book adaptation of Daredevil, Bullseye can be seen played by Colin Farrell. But he doesn't wear his typical bullseye costume there.

Deadshot has so far appeared in a few cartoon series such as Justice League and Justice League Unlimited in addition to the TV series Arrow and Smallville. In the comic book adaptation of Suicide Squad, which will be released in 2016. Will Smith then played Deadshot.


Title: Re: Similar characters in the Marvel and DC Universes
Contribution by: Jesse at the August 24, 2015, 7:54:42 am
This is really a great thread! That's when I realize how many superheroes I don't even know ...: oops: